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is freeplane demanding new graphics/artwork/redesign?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:13 am
by jkrakowski
Hello!

I want to contribute graphics artwork to freeplane. Since there isnt any todo list, dpolivaev had suggested to ask the community.

So, what kind of graphics do you miss in freeplane?
What could get a redesign?

I personally can imagine new special icon sets.

Re: is freeplane demanding new graphics/artwork/redesign?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:39 am
by kingsinger
It's a very powerful and functional program. But it's not a very good looking one. Given its price and the power, that's not a huge issue for me personally. But there are a lot of people who would not use it simply based on how it looks. Anything you can do to make it look less like something released during the Windows 98 era would probably be a step in the right direction.

Re: is freeplane demanding new graphics/artwork/redesign?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:26 am
by fnatter
hi Mjkrakowski,

unfortunately some "beautification" issues require swing coding.

What is the state of svg icons [1]? Could we use them if someone created (some of) them?
What would be the performance impact?

Also, there is the ongoing Ribbons Menu effort, and while most icons are really good, some could probably be improved.

[1] Currently all icons are pixel graphics, which is less-than-perfect when zooming.

Thanks and Best Regards,
Felix

Re: is freeplane demanding new graphics/artwork/redesign?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:13 am
by dpolivaev
Felix,

technical questions about SVG you should ask technical people like me ant not designers and artists.

AFAIK svg can be rendered by external libraries like batik which we already use in a svg plugin and a much smaller smaller (only 300 KB jar file) svgsalamander https://svgsalamander.java.net/
I have no idea about performance but it can always be solved using caching. It means given the icons and spending some moderate efforts we should be able to have svg icons too.

Dimitry

Re: is freeplane demanding new graphics/artwork/redesign?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:21 am
by fnatter
hi Dimitry,

technical questions about SVG you should ask technical people like me ant not designers and artists.


That question was addressed to you ;-)

AFAIK svg can be rendered by external libraries like batik which we already use in a svg plugin and a much smaller smaller (only 300 KB jar file) svgsalamander https://svgsalamander.java.net/


Then why use an additional library when batik already works (we use it also for PDF export)?

Best Regards,
Felix

Re: is freeplane demanding new graphics/artwork/redesign?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:25 pm
by boercher
jkrakowski wrote:I personally can imagine new special icon sets.

Yes that would be really great. We have a cool splash screen now but the rest is still very old fashioned. I'm afraid that the main issue with Freeplane is usability which only partly can be fixed by better graphics but they would be a good start.

Volker

Re: is freeplane demanding new graphics/artwork/redesign?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:15 pm
by dpolivaev
Then why use an additional library when batik already works
A small library could be added to applet, batik can't.

Re: is freeplane demanding new graphics/artwork/redesign?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:26 pm
by jkrakowski
making SVG versions of pixel icons can be a great task.
maybe there is a swap option where you can setup the mindmap it self for scalalbe icons. other users which dont need it can avoid then a performance change.

usability depends much on the user. i avoid using mouse at all cost. i do all stuff with keyboard shortcuts. a great feature would be to navigate through first letters of nodes but i didnt tried to request it yet.
i dont like over bulked ui with big graphics, this trend comes to so many places. fast accessible list view with improved keyboard navigation would be great.
A idea could be to make different "themes" one for annuitant people with win8 like tiling and some dynamic resizeable stuff for others :).
Greetings

Re: is freeplane demanding new graphics/artwork/redesign?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:16 pm
by pegi7
Hello,
all the icons that are now used in Freeplane I originally made ​​in Inkscape,
So all icons are in svg format, if you want I can send to you all my work in svg format.
You can change them or replace with new one.

Kind regard.
Predrag :)

Re: is freeplane demanding new graphics/artwork/redesign?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:32 pm
by dpolivaev
Hello Predrag :)

yes sure please do it